Analysis of 1 Dialogus 7: On believers, supporters, defenders, and receivers of heretics

John Kilcullen

In making this analysis I have consulted Pierre D'Ailly's Abbreviatio (Ian Murdoch, Critical Edition of Pierre D'Ailly's "Abbreviatio dyalogi okan", Ph D thesis Monash University, 1981).

In the translations, much information is taken from Knysh's notes in the printed edition, ABMA vol. 42. See also his introduction to that volume.

Contents
(A) Believers
    (1) in the pope's errors
    (2) in the pope (that he is a Catholic)
(B) Supporters
    (1) of the pope's errors
    (2) of heretics
(C) Those who communicate with or obey a heretic pope
(D) Defenders of heretics
(E) Receivers
(F) Attackers


BELIEVERS

Chapter 1 Who should be regarded as “believers”? (1) Those who believe the heretic’s errors, (2) those who do not believe the errors but believe that the heretic is genuinely a Catholic. (1a) Those who know that the errors have been condemned by the Church ; (1b) those who do not know that , (1bi) those who adhere to the errors pertinaciously, (1bii) those who are ready to be corrected.

(1) Believers in the pope's heretical teaching (Chapters 1-7)

Those who pertinaciously believe an error they know to be contrary to Church teaching are heretics. It is permissible and obligatory to contradict an erroneous teaching of the pope, despite risk of schism (provided there is no risk of dangerous disturbance without benefit). When the pope errs, Catholics should hold to the previous teaching of the Church.

Chapter 2. (1bi) What if the pope’s determination also has a Catholic sense? Is someone a believer in heresy if he takes the pope’s determination in a Catholic sense that the pope does not mean? Some say yes. Others say no, because this person does not err about the faith but about the pope's meaning. A person who gives the pope's statement a Catholic meaning, if he knows it is not the pope's meaning, lies, which is a mortal sin.

Chapter 3. What if they draw to a Catholic sense a definition that cannot have a Catholic sense? Some say that such people are believers in a heresy, and if they defend it and attack its critics they are pertinacious and therefore heretics. Others say it depends on whether these people have skill in distinguishing ambiguities, and whether they are ready to be corrected.

Chapter 4. What of a prelate who makes a statute that his subjects should respect the pope and the pope’s (heretical) definition? Some say this prelate is a believer in heresy and a heretic. Others say that if the order is framed so as to apply to true popes, but seeming to apply to the heretic pope, it may be justifiable as a deception. (Discussion of when deception is legitimate, and how ambiguous statutes should be interpreted.) If the prelate's order can apply only to the heretic pope, he is a believer in a heresy and a heretic.

Chapter 5. What of an inferior prelate who publishes the pope’s errors without endorsing them? Some say He must be considered a believer and a heretic. Otherwise it is said that he should be regarded as a believer but not as a heretic, since one who merely publishes is not convicted of pertinacity.

Chapter 6. Which sin is more grave: to believe a heresy, or to preach it without believing it out of worldly motives? Some say that heresy is worse, others that lying is worse. Both should incur the punishment of heretics. A liar should never be trusted.

Chapter 7. (1bii) What of people who do not know that the pope’s definition is heretical and so not pertinaciously adhere? If a person is bound to believe explicitly, he is a heretic; if only implicitly, he is not a heretic.

(2) Believers in the heretic (i.e. that he is a Catholic) (Chapters 8-23)

Chapter 8. Are believers in heretics themselves heretics? Some say: In the strict sense, no; in a broad sense, yes. Others say: not in either sense, because their error is not immutable.

Chapter 9. Is it a sin to believe that a heretic is a Catholic if one does not know that his beliefs are heresies? Not unless the ignorance is culpable ("crass and supine"), which is the case with people who do not want to listen to those who try to warn them. But should detractors be listened to? Not if they are known to be detractors, but sometimes even then [Cf. Book VI, Chapter 79.]

Chapter 10. Catholics accusing a pope of heresy should be heard, especially if they have been hitherto of good reputation.

Chapter 11. On those culpably ignorant that the pope is a heretic and refuse to listen: are they heretics, believers, supporters or defenders or receivers of the heretic pope? Some say that they are believers, not in the pope's errors but in a heretic (i.e. that the heretic pope is a Catholic). Their penalty is assessed in Extra, De hereticis, c. Excommunicamus 1 (about which there are disagreements).

Chapter 12. Should credence be given to people who wish to declare the faithlessness of a heretic pope? Arguments that it should not, until the accusation is proved in court.

Chapter 13. Arguments that it should, introduced by five distinctions leading to 7 conclusions to be explained in chapters 13-21. First conclusion: Speaking of the belief that pertains to a judge, no one should believe those reporting that the pope is a heretic unless it is notorious or proved with the judicial order observed.

 Chapter 14. Second conclusion: Speaking of belief outside the court, according to which one equal (socius) believes another, no one is bound to believe a single person, whatever his fame or opinion, who tells him that the pope is a heretic. Third conclusion: If only one person of good fame and opinion asserts that the pope is a heretic, one can believe him without sin, though one is not bound to believe him.

Chapter 15. Fourth conclusion: If several honest and discreet people report that a certain pope is a heretic, one is bound to believe them outside of court.

Chapter 16. Fifth conclusion: Prudent and honest men who report through public fame that the pope is a heretic should be believed.

Chapter 17. Sixth conclusion: Whoever brings lawful proofs or clear indications that the pope is a heretic should be believed. Continues about proofs through chapters 18 (on ignorance, e.g. of papal bulls, as excuse), 19 (whether accusations made by criminals should be taken seriously); about "clear indications", 20 (suspicion, probable or "violent" presumption).

Chapter 21. Seventh conclusion: Anyone who is criminal and is in bad fame, unless they declare by lawful proofs or clear indications that the pope is a heretic, should not be believed at all. 

Chapter 22. Arguments to show that the writings of those who strive to declare the heretic pope to be faithless should be read.

Chapter 23. Whether those who refuse to believe reports that the pope is a heretic, when he is, and who refuse to read or see writings against a heretic pope, should be counted among the blameworthy believers in a heretic pope.

Chapter 24. Answer to the first argument of Chapter 12. Should one be “quick to believe” that someone is bad or has done something bad?

Chapter 25. Whether prelates, the rich, the powerful, are more likely to be unjustly defamed than subjects and the poor? Almost all adults are involved in the vice of detraction, which is very serious.

Chapter 26. Answer to the other arguments of Chapter 12.


SUPPORTERS
("Fautors", translated variously as "supporters", "abettors", "collaborators".)

Chapter 27. Supporters [1] not of the heretics' persons but of their errors (e.g. by approving and teaching their errors), [2] of the persons of heretics but not of their errors (e.g. by trading with the Saracens); some support both the heretics and their errors. Some knowingly, some out of blameworthy ignorance, some out of blameless ignorance.

(1) Supporters of heretical wickedness (chapters 28-56)

Chapter 28  Some ways of supporting, specifically, a pope's heresy that are unlikely in supporting heresy of others: consent to his definition, advising him to make it, teaching it, failing to attack it, attacking its attackers, blocking or burning their writings, swearing to maintain it, inventing new errors to support it.

Chapter 29. Consent may be to the doctrine defined, or to the defining of it. Kinds of consent: negligence, counsel, cooperation, authority, defense. (Continues to Chapter 34.)

Chapter 30 How these are kinds of consent. Negligence: A person agrees by negligence to the definition if, knowing it to be heretical, he does not resist it. How non-resistance counts as consent. Counsel: Advising the pope to make the definition. Cooperation: Writing drafts and arguments for the definition. Defense: Offering to defend the definition.

Chapter 31. How/when they are sinful: Negligence: Is the consent of negligence a mortal sin? One opinion: Keeping silent is wrong when speaking out could prevent the heretical definition, not wrong if speaking out would have no good effect. Applied to a college and its individual members, e.g. the Cardinals. Another opinion: Whether one can prevent the definition or  not, one must speak out, except when this would fruitlessly do damage to the Christian community.

Chapter 32. Counsel and cooperation: Those who advise and cooperate in making a heretical definition sin mortally and cannot be excused by ignorance. Role of the Cardinals as advisers. Inferiors can rebuke a pope intending to define a heresy, and if they do not they consent.

Chapter 33. Those who consent to a heretical definition should be punished as heretics.

Chapter 34. Since those who consent to a heretical definition are heretics, consenting Cardinals would lose the power to elect a pope and could not be elected pope.

Bishops

Chapter 35. Begins treatment of various ranks, beginning with Archbishops, bishops, other prelates who may support a pope’s heretical definition by publishing or spreading it. Some say that prelates who spread the pope's heretical definition are supporters of heresy and heretics; others say they may be excused by ignorance.

Chapter 36. Some say that prelates who spread a heretical definition are supporters whether they are ignorant or not.

Chapter 37. Intermediate between positions of chapters 35 and 36: whether ignorance excuses prelates who spread a definition containing heresy depends on whether the heresy has been condemned explicitly or only implicitly. Is it permissible to dispute papal decisions? Merely preaching and teaching a heresy, without solemn definition, does not make a person a heretic.

Chapter 38. Bishops and prelates who allow followers of the pope to publish a pope’s heretical definition: whether the bishops count as supporters depends on whether they know the pope's doctrine is being spread by his followers, and whether it is a doctrine condemned explicitly or only implicitly. The followers cannot appeal against the bishop. When there would be great disruption without advantage, prelates may for a time cease coercing those who publish the pope’s heresy. Texts from Bible and fathers on the bishops' duty; three propositions.

Chapter 39. The penalties for prelates who do not coerce followers of the heretic pope: excommunication, suspension from office, deposition.

Chapter 40. Summary of what bishops should do.

Chapter 41. Bishops who harass attackers of heretic pope: they must undo the damage they have done, and incur various penalties.

Teachers

Chapter 42. (Doctors, masters, preachers, etc.). If they teach the pope's heretical doctrine, and are bound explicitly to believe the contrary truth, they are collaborators and heretics; if they are not bound, they should be examined to see whether they are ready to be corrected. Whether they are bound or not, if they teach the heretical doctrine as obligatory to believe, they are collaborators and heretics, because pertinacious.

Chapter 43 Teachers must attack the pope's heretical doctrine. Should they wait for a superior to command them to attack? No, the command to fight has already been issued by Christ.

Chapter 44. The Church would not tolerate a heretic pope if it knew he was a heretic. Those who know are bound to reveal it.

Chapter 45. The command of a superior is not needed. More arguments for this in Chapter 46.

Chapter 47. A minority of teachers have the obligation to defend the faith even when a majority side with the heretic pope.

Chapter 48. Summary of what teachers must do if a heretic pope ever comes (cf. Chapter 40). If they do not do so they are supporters of heresy; fear of death may excuse them somewhat.

Chapter 49. Teachers who harass other teachers who attack the heretic pope. Various cases distinguished; some excused. Those who argue against a truth they are not bound to believe explicitly are not supporters of heresy and do not sin. Also those who are blamelessly ignorant of orthodox doctrine. But those who harm the pope's critics are supporters of heresy.

Chapter 50. What to think of teachers who defend or to excuse an erroneous papal doctrine and condemn, misrepresent, and falsify the meaning of doctrines held by others.

Members of religious orders

Chapter 51. Members of religious orders. Some travel round, others do not: the former are likely to know what is happening in the Church, the latter may not. Those who know may be at fault if they do not oppose his heresy, or if they obey him. What religious should do if the pope ever becomes a heretic (cf. Chapter 40).

Seculars

Chapter 52. Kings and rulers, public powers, communities: are they "supporters" is they do not repress the pope's heresy? It depends on how much they know or can find out. If repressing the pope's heresy would fruitlessly lead to turmoil they may wait.

Chapter 53. What should a ruler do if he hears a rumour? Should a ruler prohibit dissemination of the error? Can it be tolerated for the sake of peace?

Chapter 54. Can a ruler tolerate dissemination of the pope's heresy if repression seems likely to do no good but cause turmoil? [See Knysh, ABMA vol. 42, p.16ff.]

Chapter 55. Public powers and communities inferior to kings: the same as for kings.

Chapter 56. Simple people with no power over others should resist the pope's heresy. How rulers and other public powers should deal with experts on heresy.

(2) Supporters of heretics

Chapter 57. Supporters of heretics are those who do not believe their errors but support them to defend their persons, or to make them richer, greater, or more powerful against others. See above, Chapter 27. How should they be punished? See Extra, De hereticis, Excommunicamus, 1o § Credentes.

THOSE WHO COMMUNICATE WITH OR OBEY A HERETIC POPE

Chapter 58 (to chapter 64) Communication with a heretic pope and his supporters, first bodily. Eating, speaking etc. with a heretic does not make one a supporter, but it may be a sin. Some say that it is forbidden only by human law and cannot be forbidden when non-communication would be detrimental to any Christian community.

Chapter 59 Communication in religious rituals and other things that pertain to the papal office. First opinion: That it is permissible to communicate with a heretic pope in religious matters until he has been condemned by a general council.

Chapter 60. Another opinion, that those who knowingly (or out of culpable ignorance) communicate with a heretic pope in religious matters are supporters of heretics and heretical wickedness, unless they do so out of fear. This gives rise to questions about 4 propositions: (1) That it is not permissible to communicate in religious matters with a heretic pope. (2) That those who do so, without fear of death and grave torments, are supporters of heretics and heretical wickedness. (3) That those who communicate out of fear of death or grave torments are not supporters of heretics or heretical wickedness. (4) That those who communicate in religious matters with a heretic pope sin mortally. Discussion of (1). What if the heretic pope retracts, either during a council, or just by a change of mind? He was, at least at one time, a heretic and therefore deposed. No need to convene a council if the heresy already condemned.

Chapter 61. Discussion of (2), (3) and (4). It is every Catholic’s duty to defend the faith, in an appropriate way.

Chapter 62. Those who communicate with a heretic pope in ignorance. Culpable ignorance does not excuse, "invincible and probable" ignorance does excuse.

Chapter 63. Those who obey a heretic pope. Obedience in temporal matters (unless it harms the Church or some person, or causes scandal) is not sinful. Obedience in spiritual matters makes one a supporter of a heretic and of heresy. Culpable ignorance does not excuse, non-culpable ignorance does.

Chapter 64. Answer to arguments of Chapter 59.

DEFENDERS

Chapter 65. Defenders.  What defending means. Defenders of a heretic pope. What is the penalty. Non-culpable ignorance may excuse.

Chapter 66. Defenders of heretical wickedness are themselves heretics (depending on whether they are obliged to believe the contrary truth explicitly, whether their ignorance is culpable, whether they are pertinacious).

RECEIVERS

Chapter 67. Receivers (as distinguished from believers and supporters) are those who allow heretics to reside in their territory. Catholics (including simple people) must detain a heretic pope if he enters their territory. "Plenitude of Power" is a doctrine that urgently needs to be clarified. Notwithstanding Plenitude of Power, the Church cannot oblige Catholics never to communicate physically with heretics.

Chapter 68. The punishment due to receivers: is it the same as for heretics? Or (another opinion) is it different, as prescribed in canon law?

Chapter 69. Whether believers, supporters, receivers and defenders are equally reprehensible. Human judgment may regard believers who are learned as worse than the unlearned. In the other categories, those with more temporal power are worse than others with less power.

Chapter 70. On the seriousness of the danger in the time of a heretic pope. Some say one should not try to predict the future. But if ever there is a heretic pope, the spiritual danger would be worse than if the Saracens conquered Christendom. The methods by which a heretic pope might gain control over the whole Church. He would turn the inquisition against the orthodox; he would misinterpret Scripture and use an illusion of truthfulness and devotion, he would demand obedience. False opinions among Christians would facilitate his efforts: that the pope cannot sin, that he is infallible, that we must assume that what he does is right, that a pope cannot be questioned, judged or rebuked. Arguments against these false opinions.

ATTACKERS

Chapter 71. On the attackers of a heretic pope: which persons are qualified? Those who are pre-eminent in virtues, learned in the sacred letters, experts in difficult tasks, and possessing temporal power. (Did Jerome say that Catholics must submit their faith to the correction of the pope?)

Chapter 72. Attackers must be innovative in their methods, generous with resources, willing to lose property, honours, reputation; they must be unified, open to advice from others active in defense of the faith; they should avoid all sin. As in the time of Noah, "The earth is filled with violence."

Chapter 73. Attackers need knowledge of Scripture, not just memory of the words, but deep understanding of the meaning, and skill in logic. They should not deliberately misinterpret the heretic pope's intentions; they should not be motivated by hatred of the pope.

Epilogue

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